Відео

George Washington never wanted to be President. Not for his first term, even less for his second. Toby is wrong. Not wanting to be President, shouldn't disqualify anybody. It might be the only real sign that a person is doing it for the right reasons.

Just giving the actor credit for playing wall-ball so smooth.

Is Leo shutting Toby down throughout these scenes, or does he legit think that Toby is pointlessly obsessing over that nasty, nasty creature John Hoynes?

I love Richard Schiff for the way he can speak so softly yet carry a deadly intensity.

The quality of the actor who demonstrates 'catching ' that idea without a word spoken or character to play to. Richard makes it look so easy. How many takes?

Josh tempted the wrath.

Fake President covered up his medical condition from the voting public or a real President who covers up his relations with at least 2 porn stars from the voting public and his pregnant wife. All this because his "grab them by the p...." comment which he actually did by r..... a women.

Some of the finest acting in television history

This is post-Sorkin Toby, so it's not as smart as we expect it to be. Shakespeare knew better: Some men are born great. Some become great. And some have greatness thrust upon them! (And that's from a comedy.)

I haven't seen the dems this mad since the Republicans freed the dems' slaves.

Keep your damn mouth shut until Leo has left.

This is Toby being stupid. You NEVER KNOW 100%. Until they get the job. Until you see them in action. Bad writing.

Always in love with Tobey

The biggest misstep this series took at the end was having Santos win.

OH He's saying "Seltzer" - a brand of Carbonated Water. As a British Guy, for the last five years, I've been hearing him saying *Salsa*.

A great moment yes but I'd say fixing social security and not taking the credit was his finest, followed closely by the homeless vets funeral.

There's an amazingly funny book called How to Fight Presidents, a well researched comedy book. Author, Daniel O'Brien, makes the point that this, what's happening here in this scene, is the problem with the American Presidency. To achieve it, you'd almost certainly have to be a megalomaniac. The personality that survives the battle to become president is, very often, not the type of person we want to wield that much power.

Actually, VP "Cactus Jack" Garner ran against his president, FDR, in 1940... as did his former campaign manager and postmaster general, Jim Farley, in that same primary period. Grover Cleveland lived in dread of his vice president, Adlai Stevenson, too: the gold bug vs. the silver beetle.

Toby doesn't realize that Bartlet only ran for President when Leo talked him into it.

"Only those that do not seek power are qualified to hold it."

I didn't realize that they switched roles when Fitzwallace was killed. Leo was gung ho about blowing up everything and Barlet would not go along.

There is NOTHING like a good strategic thinker. They can see through smoke, fog and steel…. Thank you Toby. This show taught me so much and I didn’t even know it at the time,

what did he mean about Eisenhower and Nixon? My history ain't that good

the spectral sound of the ball bouncing at the end symbolizing toby's deduction is another example of first rate west wing. easily in the top five for best shows ever made.

Finest moment... He has so many. Remember saving social security?

You ever get that feeling that you know something is wrong? It tears you apart, soul searching even. Fishing out questions to the people involved in the problem? Then you put all the pieces together, and it becomes the worst possible scenario? It is in these moments that you pray that you are not right.

LOL toby was a sucker & it wasn't his finest moment he should have figured this all out long before he even asked the VP. The irony of this scene in today's biden wh lol either for the head or the spare.... LOL roflmfao

is funny when you have smart people working under you... perhaps you forget how smart they are sometimes...

1:01 That look up from the laptop is one of my favorite moments of the entire show. Toby doesn't know what he's figured out yet, but he's figured something out.

Wait.. Eric Stratton became Vice President?

Toby's finest moment:_quote_ "...I certainly hope so."....in response to the president saying every homeless vet would be coming out of the woodwork for assistance/ recognition.

IMHO, the finest drama ever made, simply superb.

I stopped by this house before, haven’t been inside yet. Malibu is a beautiful scene with little traffic

How much would a house like that go for today? Certainly no less than several million?

The entire second season of The West Wing is some of the finest television of all time.

I always felt Toby was the consciousnesses of the West Wing…always strived for what was right

"I wouldn't give it a lot of thought." Proceeds to give it ALL the thought.

The Other Guys and Gals certainly. Win. 2005-2023 so far Avoidance.

Josh Lyman: This isn't about the President doesn't think Santos can win, it's about you don't think he can win. Toby Ziegler: That's true, I don't. Josh Lyman: Because it will kill you to see me do this and succeed. You're not wired for such an event. You're entire neurological infrastructure would fritz out. Toby Ziegler: You really think I built up some Freudian fratricidal mania built around your success? You don't think I have anything other than that against the Democratic nominee for President? Josh Lyman: Name something else, please. Toby Ziegler: He's not Presidential material. Josh Lyman: Why? Toby Ziegler: Why? Because he left. He left Congress, he left Washington to go home and do small, important work. You had to haul him by the hair out of the family bed. Did you never stop to wonder if that was a good choice? Josh Lyman: He stepped up when presented with the opportunity. Toby Ziegler: The man in that job shouldn't have to be presented with anything! It's for someone who grabs it and holds on to it, for someone who thinks the gods have conspired to bring him to this place, that destiny demands of him this service! If you don't have that kind of drive, that hubris, how in the hell are you going to make the kind of decisions that stump every other person in this country? How in the hell are you going to hold that kind of power in your hand? Josh Lyman: You don't know he's not that man. Toby Ziegler: You don't know that he is. Is he? Look me in the eye and tell me that you know, without a shadow of a doubt you know. [Josh says nothing] Toby Ziegler: That's why the other guy wins.

It’s not just that Toby figured out Hoynes’ message, he also set a trap for LEO, and LEO, the Chief of Staff and the most experienced operative in the entire White House, WALKED RIGHT INTO IT.

This scene is filmed so well (with the ball sound going over the talking at the end really well filmed)

And this scene is so much better than the physical fight they had in season 6. But Toby, the idealist, forgets that Jed had to be convinced into being president. It was Leo's idea. Leo was the Washington politician whilst Jed had seemingly settled as the Governor in New Hampshire. He had no ambitions for President until Leo came to see him.

Love that Toby is basically saying "I'm a smart caring person but plagued by doubt and over analysis." - we need someone who can do what I can't.

If you're looking for someone who has that hubris, that arrogance, that ambition and lust for power that Toby seems to want, you're asking to get someone who could easily be a tyrant. As a counter point a line for Star Trek Deep Space 9: "Great men do not seek power, they have it thrust upon them". A humble, intelligent, hard-working, compassionate, capable man is a far better candidate than an proud ambitious power seeker.

Even the title cards, or whatever you call them, gave me goosebumps. Such a good show.

Biggest takeaway for me was, there was a time not that long ago when you could buy 3 sandwiches for $12.95.

His finest moment was arranging the funeral of a homeless veteran.

Aaron Sorkin is a fkn poet

Toby and Josh would have left the country if they had a Biden or a Trump! You just couldn’t make that shit up!

Toby scares the hell out of me. In that milieu, one must seriously consider that's better to have him in the tent, pissing out compared with the alternative. He's a Claymore mine with the instruction printed on it, "This side toward enemy."